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Before proposing or creating a new type of stub, please read How to propose a new stub type.

This page only deals with the deletion and renaming of stub types, which consist of a template and a category, and are intended to be used for sorting stubs. Stub templates that are missing categories and stub categories without associated templates are also appropriate here. All other templates or categories nominated for deletion or renaming have to be put on Templates for discussion or Categories for discussion, respectively.

About this page

This page is for the proposal, discussion, and voting on deletion or renaming of stub categories, stub templates, and stub redirects. Centralizing the vote on these three closely related matters on one page reduces the need for repeating identical arguments on several different Wikipedia deletion pages (Wikipedia:Categories for discussion, Wikipedia:Templates for deletion, and Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion) and also reduces the workload on those pages.

This page is still named "Stub types for deletion" for two reasons. Firstly, many of the stub types brought here arrive here after rudimentary discussion has already taken place at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Discoveries. Secondly, renaming automatically implies some form of deletion. The renaming of a stub category leads to the replacement and deletion of the older category, and the renaming of a stub template usually (but not always) leads to the deletion of the previous template name, as stub template redirects are rarely used (for the reasons for this, see the stub naming guidelines).

Putting a stub type on Stub types for deletion (SfD), and what happens afterwards

• Mark the affected pages:
  • For deletion:
    • Put {{sfd-t}} on stub templates
    • Put {{sfd-c}} on stub categories
    • Put {{sfd-r}} on stub redirects, and include the redirect target after it (see below for details)
  • For renaming:
    • Put {{sfr-t|New-name}} (parameter optional) on stub templates
    • Put {{sfr-c|New name}} (parameter optional) on stub categories
    • Put {{sfr-r|New name}} (parameter optional) on stub redirects (Redirects should be nominated for renaming only as part of a mass renaming that includes templates that share the name element to be renamed that the redirect uses.)
• List the stub type below in a new subsection at the top of the section which has the current date. If that section does not yet exist, create it.
  • Mention all affected pages in the subheading, like this:
    ==== {{tl|banana stub}} / [[:Category:Banana stubs]] / {{tl|YellowCurvyFruit-stub}} (redirect) ====
  • Also mention how many articles currently use the template, and if it is listed anywhere else.
  • Of course, state your reason for nominating the stub type!
• It is generally considered civil to notify the good-faith creator and any main contributors to the stub that you are nominating the stub. To find the main contributors, look in the page history or talk page of the stub.
• After a voting period of seven days, action will be taken if there is consensus on the fate of the stub type. Please do not act before this period is over.
• Archived discussions are logged here, and are marked with {{sfd top}} and {{sfd bottom}}, indicating whether category and template were renamed, deleted, or no action taken.

Putting {{sfd-r}} or {{sfr-r}} on redirects

Given that the {{sfd-r}} and {{sfd-r}} templates break redirection, it is necessary to change a stub redirect when adding the template, as follows:

#Redirect [[Template:Example-stub]] should be changed to:

{{sfd-r}}{{Example-stub}}

Possible reasons for the deletion of a stub type

• They are not used in any article, and their category is empty
• They overlap with other stub categories, or duplicate them outright
• Their scope is too limited - As a rule of thumb, there should be at least 50 appropriate stubs in existence
• Their scope is too ambiguous or vague - in these cases, renaming may be more appropriate than outright deletion
• The stub category or template is misnamed. In this case, make this clear when nominating and propose a new category or template name. Note that - in the case of a template but not a category - it may be more appropriate to make it into a redirect.
• They are malformed, misnamed, or deprecated redirects

What this page is not for

• Stub templates that were not approved by the WikiProject and/or created through the proposal process (unless other reasons apply) - list those on Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Discoveries. From there, they may later be taken to this page
• Patently nonsensical or insulting stub types - they may be speedily deleted.
• Empty categories with no corresponding template - they may be speedily deleted (after 4 days, as per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion (WP:CSD) criterion C1).
• Recently created stub types not used on any articles - they may be speedily deleted (after 4 days, as per WP:CSD criterion C1). This does not apply to types properly proposed and accepted which have not yet been populated.
• Malformed stub types to which no further deletion reasons apply - fix them or tell the Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting.
• Stub categories that are too large - these are not deleted, even if they get subdivided.

Typical opinion options

• Keep (do not delete or modify)
• Delete (delete template and category)
• Merge with xx-stub (delete category, keep template (either as redirect to, or feeding into the same category as, xx-stub))
• Merge with xx-stub without redirect (delete category and template, put xx-stub on all articles that use it)
• Upmerge (merge to parent stub type, typically by keeping the template but redirecting it to the parent stub category for potential re-splitting later)
• Change scope (reword the template, typically giving it either a larger or more precise scope. Usually also means renaming the category)

When expressing an opinion, please try to give a more substantial reason than simply "I like it/find it useful" or "I dislike it/don't find it useful".

Renaming options

• Rename/Support
  • (for templates: move to new name, replace existing usages, delete redirect);
  • (for categories: recreate category page under new name, repopulate, delete old category).
• Rename, keep redirect/Move (for templates only: move, but don't replace usages of existing template)
• Oppose (no move of template, and/or deletion and recreation of category)

• DO NOT rename any stub type that has been nominated here while discussion is still in progress. Any necessary renaming will be done when the discussion is closed.

• If you wish to argue for the deletion of a template or category nominated for renaming, please re-tag with {{sfd-t}}/{{sfd-c}}, and note the date of doing so, so as to ensure proper consideration of this new nomination.

If a template is speedily renamed, similarly re-tag the resultant redirect if deletion of that is desired.

Note to non-administrators

If a category and/or stub deletion is agreed upon and you're helping to change the stubs on those pages: Once you've emptied the category, please note the category on this page under the "To Delete" section that the stub category section is empty ("orphaned") and "ready to be deleted" to the administrators.

Listings

January 9

Canoer - Canoeist

Per recent changes at CFD, which saw all "canoers" categories renamed to the more widely-used term "canoeists", rename:

• Cat:Canoer stubs - Cat:Canoeist stubs
• Cat:German canoer stubs - Cat:German canoeist stubs
• Cat:Hungarian canoer stubs - Cat:Hungarian canoeist stubs

Grutness...wha- 06:09, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

• Rename All per nom. -- MISTER ALCOHOL ^{T C} 20:40, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

January 5

{{Squash-stub}} / Cat:Squash stubs, {{Squash-bio-stub}} / Cat:Squash biography stubs

Seems like a reasonable idea to have templates for this sport, though the categories may well be premature - there's no sign that these are likely to reach threshold at the moment - even given the presence of a WikiProject - so they may need to be upmerged. There is, however, a major problem. Squash is a dab page, so the template should not be called {{Squash-stub}}. Suggest renaming the templates (and not keeping the current names as redirects) to {{Squash-sport-stub}} and {{Squash-sport-bio-stub}} and - unless the required number of stubs can be found quickly, upmerging both. If kept, the parenting of the categories will need massive improvement, too. BTW, {{Squash-stub}} also uses that horrible Asbox thing, so will need recoded properly. Grutness...wha- 00:19, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

On second thoughts, The sport seems to be the primary topic, so i've mvoed the article there. No need to rename the templates, but there still may be a need to upmerge them. Grutness...wha- 01:12, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Keep, though the -stub mey not yet get any where near threshold. 91.110.88.4 (talk) 23:37, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Huh- That boils down to "Keep despite meeting the criteria for deletion"! Grutness...wha- 00:01, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

• Upmerge per nom. -- MISTER ALCOHOL ^{T C} 20:51, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

{{Orienteering-org-stub}} / Cat:Orienteering organization stubs

Unproposed, and of very limited use. The piping on the template is bewildering and the category needs better parents, but the main problems are the lack of suitable parents. Cat:Sports organization stubs is not oversized}}, we don't even have an Cat:Orienteering stubs, and there is no such category as Cat:Orienteering organizations (with either spelling). The nearest appropriate permcat parent is Cat:Orienteering clubs, and even if everything in that category was a stub it still wouldn't meet threshold. Just not needed or practical. Delete. Grutness...wha- 00:36, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Create, and shift this to, Orienteering-stub, if that is supportable; otherwise delete. Radagast (talk) 18:08, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

I was not fully aware of policy when creating it and did not know that a formal proposal had to be initiated I agree with moving it to Orienteering-stub as suggested above . TALK ^- 18:12, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

• Comment. A stub template for WikiProject Orienteering might be useful, but this template is a very narrow subset. I think its purpose would be better served using the CategoryIntersect tool.[1] (For the record, I do not approve of creating Wikipedia articles for every orienteering club, especially not stub articles; that is too close to using Wikipedia as a directory.) --Una Smith (talk) 18:16, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

• • As a follow-up to this nomination, I've proposed an orienteering-stub at WP:WSS/P. I doubt there'll be much (if any) objection to it. Grutness...wha- 23:54, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
    • support deletion of this (having already supported -stub and -bio-stub}. 91.110.88.4 (talk) 23:36, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. -- MISTER ALCOHOL ^{T C} 20:39, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

{{Dalit-stub}} (no category)

Unproposed, and definitely seems to be an inappropriate way to split stubs. If the Dalits were an ethnic group, it would be questionable but borderline, but this is a split for an Indian caste. The first paragraph of the article Dalit tells you instantly why it would be very problematical to have this as a stub: a self-designated name for "a mixed population of numerous caste groups [who] speak various languages [and who are] impossible to differentiate [...] on the basis of phenotypes or genetics alone" We don't have separate stub types for individual social groups in general, especially not self-designated ones - it would run directly across the stub hierarchy and make for multi-stubbing for the sake of multi-stubbing. Most of the things that this stub could possibly be used on have far more appropriate stub types available. What's more, the template itself is a problem, with no stub category of any kind (it links to a permcat) and with an inappropriate link in its text. Delete. Grutness...wha- 00:46, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

• Keep:First of all, sorry, I was unaware that formal proposal has to presented and accepted before a stub type gets created. I have learned that now and would follow the same in future. multi-stubbing for the sake of multi-stubbing was definitely not my intention, but to help improve the coverage of Dalit articles. Dalits are not ethnic groups in India but a huge section of society that is not properly sorted on WP. Indian caste is such a huge grouping that it would be impossible to properly sort articles under them. Also, it is not at all difficult to differentiate if an organization or individual is a dalit or not. It is not at all ambiguous - but quite clear. This would not create confusion, but instead clear up the idea for any reader. I have also corrected the category problem mentioned by you by creating a sub-category Category:Dalit community stubs. This would put the articles under Category:Dalit > Category:Dalit community > Category:Dalit community stubs. The Dalit category page currently does not have any sub-category of stub articles. Hope this helps and let me know if anything else needs to be corrected. --GPPande 07:25, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
• Delete; though an important topic, not suitable for a stub type, mainly because stub types follow clearly definable geographic or cultural guidelines, rather than caste or social status; you are right in saying that Dalits are part of many cultures and regions. If this area of WP needs organization, I suggest you use the permanent categories for now. Also, may I observe that though the definition of what/who is Dalit may be clear to you and many others, there are enough people whose opinions differ on the topic to make this a difficult type to assign and sort. Cheers, Her Pegship (tis herself) 23:03, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

January 1

{{ESA-stub}}/Cat:European Space Agency stubs, also Cat:NASA stubs

Relisting this, since it was closed as "no consensus" - something rarely if ever done at SFD. The original debate is at Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion/Log/2008/August/17. The earlier debate ended with two calls for keeping and three of upmerging. The situation has changed little since that time - in tyhe last five months neither category has moved close to meeting the required threshold for a stub category (the larger of them is at only 41 stubs). We also now have the very first - and hopefully only ever - stub category redirect, since the original category of Cat:ESA stubs was perplexingly made into a redirect. I repeat my earlier suggestion, to keep {{ESA-stub}} and {{NASA-stub}} but to upmerge them into a new category of Cat:Space program stubs, at least until such time as they are big enough to stand alone - something which they have not achieved even after five months of scrutiny. Grutness...wha- 04:30, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

• Support sounds like a great plan. Waacstats (talk) 23:35, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

December 30

{{Greater-Manchester-stub}} / Cat:Greater Manchester stubs

Unproposed and misnamed - the template should be at {{GreaterManchester-stub}}. May be worth having as such, so I'd suggest a rename (with deletion of the old name as non-standard). The category is another matter. It was a bit of a mess, with Stub-Class categories as subtypes (a no-no for stub categories, since the two systems are independent), and with Cat:England geography stubs as an incorrect parent. Even cleaned up as it is now, there's no guarantee it will meet threshold; unless it does, it will need upmerging. Grutness...wha- 01:03, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Support renaming and deletion and upmerger if necessary. Waacstats (talk) 23:33, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Support renaming. I didn't know I had to propose stubs before adding them. The purpose of this one is because there is no generic stub covering the Greater Manchester region - only some subject-specific ones so it's really worth having. I'm fine with renaming if I've broken naming conventions but would be sad to see it deleted as it's useful. 11:16, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

PS I don't understand the problem with the category - comparing it to, say, Category:London stubs or other similar ones, it has the same approach.Wikidwitch (talk) 11:23, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Main problem is the size - to be truly useful to stub sorters and editors alike there needs to be at least a minimum number of stubs in the category - for most purposes we've set this to 60 stubs, to stop the proliferation of tiny stub categories which would be impossible to patrol. If you can find 60 general stubs on Greater Manchester and add them to the category, then there's no problem with it. if not, it should be upmerged until there are 60 (see Wikipedia:Stub#Creating_stub_types). Grutness...wha- 22:23, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Understood, but I haven't got around to populating it yet!Wikidwitch (talk) 00:58, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, you've got until the end of this SfD process - and even if it's upmerged then through lack of numbers, it would be a fairly straightforward "speediable" nomination if and when it does get round to having enough stubs. Grutness...wha- 04:45, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

OK, well I don't know how speedy I'm going to be! Anyone know, is there a rapid way of searching for stub articles within a category with AWB- Might help me along. Wikidwitch (talk) 01:05, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

December 29

Cat:Sex stubs - Cat:Sex and sexuality stubs

I feel that the current name doesn't quite reflect what the category is actually for. It should encompass articles on the sociological side of sexuality, not just the sex act(s) it/themself. It would also be a more appropriate name given some of the subcats - LGBT and BDSM (hm - is that a dom/subcat- :) The permcat parent is Cat:Sexuality, the option of just making this Cat:Sexuality stubs would also make some sense. Grutness...wha- 21:54, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Rename to "Sexuality stubs" to match parent category. Sex is included in sexuality. --Alynna (talk) 20:52, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Rename and Redirect to "Sexuality stubs" per above. -- MISTER ALCOHOL ^{T C} 20:58, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Old business

December 25

{{Football-variant-stub}} / Cat:Football variant stubs

Not proposed, not supported by an equivalent permcat, and, well, generally fairly ambiguous. The wording of the category makes it clear there's a fundamental misunderstanding here about the difference between stubs and Stub-Class articles, too. I can see the case for a possible template for futsal or for beach football, but not for this strange amalgamated form. Given that the word "footy" is that used for templates, to avoid the ambiguity of "football", this has problems from this regard as well. Delete all, but with the possibility of proposing separate templates for specific varieties of football. Grutness...wha- 00:18, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Just delete - DeMoN2008 11:00, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

• Keep. This can actually be quite helpful if it is used more. -- MISTER ALCOHOL ^{T C} 20:39, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

December 23

Indian divisional geography categories

India's geography stubs are being split by division, and it'd be as well to get our ducks in a line naming-wise ASAP. In most cases so far, we have categories of the form Cat:Foo geography stubs, but Foo is simply the largest city in Foo division (and yes, the lower case "d" seems to be standard). I'd like to propose standardising on Cat:Foo district geography stubs (most of those which exist already follow this format), with the following changes:

• Cat:Alappuzha geography stubs - Cat:Alappuzha district geography stubs
• Cat:Ernakulam geography stubs - Cat:Ernakulam district geography stubs
• Cat:Kannur geography stubs - Cat:Kannur district geography stubs
• Cat:Kottayam geography stubs - Cat:Kottayam district geography stubs
• Cat:Palakkad geography stubs - Cat:Palakkad district geography stubs
• Cat:Thrissur geography stubs - Cat:Thrissur district geography stubs

Grutness...wha- 00:14, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

• Support : District wise stub cats are needed like for Cat:Karnataka geography stubs

-- Tinu Cherian - 08:43, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

• • Though I agree, that's hardly the point being debated here. And may I ask why you changed the categories over before this process debate was closed- Grutness...wha- 23:20, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
    • • Sorry, We had already done this exercise for some of the other states ( per suggestion of Grutness) and you had already closed the discussion of Wikipedia:WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Proposals#Split_of_Cat:Kerala_geography_stubs as "create per district". This discussion also went ahead with no objections over a week ( 7 day review period ) . And that is why I went ahead and created the new cats -- Tinu Cherian - 04:56, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
        • I'm not talking about the new Karnataka ones, which had been closed - I'm talking about the six nominated for renaming on this page - discussion of which has not yet been closed.BTW, if you're going to cite WP:BOLD ("why I did") , please make sure you read that page to understand why it is primarily for articles, and why more caution is needed for categories and templates. Grutness...wha- 23:44, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
          • Btw, that was me who closed that discussion. Sorry for any ambiguity; I thought it was pretty clear. Cheers, Her Pegship (tis herself) 05:27, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
            • Yes. I acted upon this discussion which was closed for kerala stubs -- Tinu Cherian - 07:14, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

December 19

Cat:Defensive lineman, 1990s birth stubs

Same as below. Used on only one stub with no room for expansion for at least a year. Suggest delete and redirect--Thomas.macmillan (talk) 22:30, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

support delete cat. Waacstats (talk) 23:45, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

{{roc-stub}} and {{ROC-stub}} (redirects)

Two non-standard-name redirects to {{Taiwan-stub}} - both created (can you guess-) by one User:Instantnood, three years ago. Between them, used less than fifteen times overall - seemingly only by Instantnood and no-one else... and he's long been banned from editing. Since no-one's using them, and the names are opretty dodgy, to say the least (ROC is a dab page, and Roc most commonly means a large mythical bird), these should probably go. Delete. Grutness...wha- 11:38, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Delete as ambigous. Waacstats (talk) 23:40, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

December 17

Cat:Linebacker, 1990s birth stubs

This category and the partnering {{Linebacker-1990s-stub}} have recently been made (unproposed). While I've no doubt the template is a reasonable aaddition to the series of stub types which exist of this type, the category is very unlikely to reach the required number of stubs, for a while at least. I'd like to propose upmerging this for now, with no prejudice against (re-)proposal and re-creation once we've got enough stubs for it (my guess, it'll take until about early 2010 - i.e., the first few 20-year-olds as well as the teenagers). Grutness...wha- 00:37, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Support deletion and upmerger till we get 60, once we get 60 it will of course be speedy-able. Waacstats (talk) 11:21, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

December 15

{{PokemonGame-stub}}

Unproposed, unnecessary and malformed. New, so not used yet, but there's no real reason why it should be used. Given the worryingly small size of Cat:Pokémon stubs (more about which below), there's simply no reason at all for a separate stubb type for the games, even upmerged. Couple that with the fact that the naming is non-standard and there's no category link at all (not even a redlink), and this becomes a firm candidate for deletion. Grutness...wha- 00:17, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Delete not really needed. Waacstats (talk) 09:32, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Pokémon problems

There are problems with Cat:Pokémon stubs and - more specifically - its template. Firstly, there are a mere 28 stubs - not even enough to support a stub type for a WikiProject main stub category. There's also an empty (except for one user page) subcategory which isn't for stubs, so shouldn't be there. On top of that, for unknown reasons {{pokemon-stub}} is only a redirect; the actual stub is at the ambigguously named {{poke-stub}}. There's also a clearly substandardly-named redirect at {{pokestub}}. ideally, the template should actually be at {{pokémon-stub}}, but there's nothing there, not even a redlink.

I'd like to suggest the following:

• A rename of the template to {{pokémon-stub}}, keeping the redirect at {{pokemon-stub}} but deleting {{poke-stub}} and {{pokestub}}
• A possible upmerge of the category.

Grutness...wha- 00:17, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Agree with rename/delete templates. As for the category it is close to threshold for a wikiproject (I assume there is one) and where would we upmerge it to- Waacstats (talk) 09:37, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

That's one of the reasons it was only a weak delete suggestion. It is close to threshold and seems to be in use - I suspect it's decreasing as a consequence of work by the WikiProject. And there isn't one easy target for an upmerge. Grutness...wha- 00:02, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

December 12

Cat:Guam radio station stubs

This category has existed for over a year and has acquired a grand total of 17 stubs - not even 1/3 of the way to threshold. Givedn that that's pretty much a stub for every radio station on Guam, chances of it reaching threshold are slim, to say the least. Can't see any reason why this shouldn't be upmerged into the appropriate Cat:Guam stubs and Cat:Oceania radio station stubs. Grutness...wha- 11:46, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

• Keep. More stubs may come soon. -- MISTER ALCOHOL ^{T C} 20:50, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

{{Salcette-geo-stub}}

Unproposed stub type, with the only category link being to a permcat, and to a more general one at that. Salcette, BTW, is a place in Goa, India. Salcette itself is a stub, and has no permcat of its own, unsurprisingly. Given that the number of articles in Cat:Goa geography stubs isn't exactly huge (there are 99 of them), this is - to put it bluntly - massive hyperspecification overkill. Delete. Grutness...wha- 00:53, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

December 11

{{Mobile}}

Suggesting deletion per this. I came across the template hitting random article. It is currently used in 3 articles.--Rockfang (talk) 20:00, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Delete. A stub template in everything but name (the name is certainly not stub convention standard), and already covered by other templates. Grutness...wha- 00:43, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Delete - no reason not to use the (already existing) {{mobile-stub}}. -- Od Mishehu 12:55, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

• Redirect to {{mobile-stub}} for the sake of transclusion. -- MISTER ALCOHOL ^{T C} 20:40, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

{{FR-stub}} (redirect)

We don't use ISO 2-letter codes for country names in stub types, and this redirect... isn't for France at all. It's a dangerously and deceptively ambiguous redirect to {{ForgottenRealms-stub}}, in fact. It was renamed through this page back in September 2005, but for some reason the deletion of the misnamed redirect wasn't done - so this is probably speediable on those grounds, though it will need to be emptied first. (Speedy) delete Grutness...wha- 09:10, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Delete: Per nom. The articles that already have this stub template will need updating. -Drilnoth (talk) 13:19, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Yup - that's done as part of the closure of deletion decisions on SFD. Grutness...wha- 00:02, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

{{Forgotten Realms-stub}} (redirect)

Another misnamed redirect of {{ForgottenRealms-stub}}, though at least this one isn't so ambiguous. Delete. Grutness...wha- 09:10, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Delete: Per nom. Stubs typically use dashes. The articles that already have this stub template will need updating. -Drilnoth (talk) 13:20, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

December 7

{{Asm-film-stub}}/Cat:Assamese-language film stubs

Unproposed, very poorlly named template, and distinct size concerns about the category (parent permcat has only seven articles). If the template is kept, it will need renaming (probably to {{Assamese-film-stub}}) and upmerging. Outright deletion may be a preferable option. Grutness...wha- 22:40, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

template could be useful upmerged but it may be easier to delete and wait for more articles. Waacstats (talk) 11:32, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

The discussion just got more convoluted - the same user has just created {{Assamese-film-stub}}, which I'm including with this now, since it'ss basically the same template with a new name. We really should add a note to the sfd-t template to stop people from confusing matters like that (would still favour Delete, BTW). Grutness...wha- 23:38, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

December 3

{{Tanakh-stub}}